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1) I know it depends on the day/time.. but where are the most likely options for $3 (or even $1) craps on The Strip? How about downtown?
2) Once I find a $3 table.. how do they handle the 'x-to-5' or 'y-to-6' payouts? Do they have 50cent cheques? 25cent cheques? Or is it like a $5 table, where if you want the full 'y' on the 'y-to-6' payout, you need to bet the $6?
This table was great for my style of play..3 pass/come bets with full odds and I only have $54 on the board.
The table was $3 in the afternoon and early evening, but they were quick to flip the card and change it to $5 when the table had more than about five people on it in the evening.
I enjoy playing at the Sahara. The dealers are good and the drinks are pretty quick. Drinks at slots were not as good as at the tables.
It's about 13 miles from the strip. A cabbie at Sahara gave me an estimate of $30.
I've never been there, but the word is that they use quarters, so you can press those place bets by $1.25/$1.50.
Thier website advertises $1 craps, $2 on weekends.
http://www.jokerswildcasino.com/casino-gaming/table-games
I'm definately heading there on my next trip.
Usually you round your odds to $6 in most places to keep payment in even dollars. Most places don't want to deal in change anymore.
First of all, thank you to all the craps experts on this forum. This site is an amazing source of knowledge and intersting, friendly discussion.
1) I know it depends on the day/time.. but where are the most likely options for $3 (or even $1) craps on The Strip? How about downtown?
2) Once I find a $3 table.. how do they handle the 'x-to-5' or 'y-to-6' payouts? Do they have 50cent cheques? 25cent cheques? Or is it like a $5 table, where if you want the full 'y' on the 'y-to-6' payout, you need to bet the $6?
As far as I know, Slots of Fun in front of Circus Circus has $3 craps all the time on their 1 table thats nearly on the sidewalk. Not sure what the max odds are there.
Check out the Wizard's craps survey and nextshooter.com.
First of all, thank you to all the craps experts on this forum. This site is an amazing source of knowledge and intersting, friendly discussion.
1) I know it depends on the day/time.. but where are the most likely options for $3 (or even $1) craps on The Strip? How about downtown?
2) Once I find a $3 table.. how do they handle the 'x-to-5' or 'y-to-6' payouts? Do they have 50cent cheques? 25cent cheques? Or is it like a $5 table, where if you want the full 'y' on the 'y-to-6' payout, you need to bet the $6?
The Fremont downtown advertises $3 craps 24-7, and they have 50 cent chips.
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Most, if not all, of the downtown joints are capable of having a $3 game during the early mornings. I even partook in a $1 minimum game at Binion's.The minimum bets in the small places like Joker's Wild on Boulder strip are even better than downtown. Keep in mind that they have only one craps table.
Every place that doesn't have 50 cent chips will let you go up from the specified max free odds for the 5/9 bet so that the pay is in even dollars.
While $1 is standard at Joker's Wild, it usually only happens after 3AM at Binion's, and even that is on a night by night basis. If you are betting that low, they expect you to take full odds, and bet all or most of the come bets. That is actually kind of fun.
Personally, I don't understand why you would play baccarat instead of free odds on craps. The percentages are so much better on craps (even if you only do 3,4,5x).
If you are betting that low, they expect you to take full odds, and bet all or most of the come bets. That is actually kind of fun.
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I imagine it might be fun. I usually do a LineBet and then at least two ComeBets.So the considerations would be:
Guaranteed or likely.
One or multiple craps tables.
Nearby or Distant. (That 30 dollar cab ride only makes sense if there is some other reason for your wanting to go there)
Alternative activities at that casino.
I wouldn't pay $30 each way to take a taxi from the strip to Joker's Wild. You could plan a Boyd gaming trip with a car, and stay in one of their decent hotels like Orleans or Suncoast. Use your car to venture to their minor properties to look for some hard core gambling, and collect Boyd loyalty club points.
Suncoast has better golf, while Orleans has a lot of dining options, bowling and movies and is close to the strip.
Boyd has 9 properties in urban Vegas. Joker's Wild and Eldorado are the oldest ones and are the only two without hotel rooms.
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The brief personal story aside, since I totally forgot to pay attention to the state of blackjack games offered on the Strip other than the tables I walked by, I have very little idea about the conditions of low-roller tables there (see my definition above). I know however that there are significantly more rip-off ones than legit ones among those with minimums under $25. Now, would anyone who have info on table minimums in those Strip properties give me and the fellow members that are interested any updates on the current conditions? According to the author of a recent article on Casino City Times, he failed to identify a single 3:2 table that had a minimum below $25 during his brief trip to the Strip (no idea how many or which places he visited). However, I doubt that the Survey is THAT outdated since it, once again, lists multiple low-roller tables being offered at most Strip properties. Anyone with any up-to-date info to share with the rest of us would be greatly appreciated.
Note that English is not my native language so I hope what I wrote above makes sense to readers. This is my first post on this forum although I've been a loyal reader for quite some time. It is my pleasure to meet everybody here. Let's keep playing smart and giving ourselves the best shot at winning each and every session against the evil casino empires!
Treasure Island ($10 6-deck and DD games, always)
Bellagio ($10 and $15 6-deck CSM games, always)
Ballys, Harrahs, Flamingo ($10 during the day, $15 at night, 8 deck shoe games)
MGM Grand ($10 during the day, $15-$25 at night, 6 deck shoe games)
NYNY - two $10 6 deck shoes, two $25 DD games
Aria - all CSM games, $10 during the morning, $15 in the afternoon and evening
Mirage - only during the busiest times they have a couple low limit 3:2 tables open, but their main pit is all 6:5
Excalibur and Luxor also have $10 3:2 games, but I don't think they allow surrender or resplitting aces.
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Also, as I toured the casinos/hotels I had a few in mind where the atmosphere seemed to my taste that I would consider playing there on my next trip, which are not listed above. Can anyone confirm whether any of the following are still valid? Note that the following is cited from the Survey on this site.
Paris: 8D, H17, DAS, LS, NRSA, $10-$2000;
Cosmopolitan: 8D, H17, DAS, LS, RSA, $15-$5000;
Wynn/Encore: 6D, H17, DAS, LS, RSA, $10-$5000;
CP: 6D, H17, DAS, LS, NRSA, $10-$10000
Also for my higher-roller acquaintances who'd prefer to play up to $50-$100 a hand and play in higher-end properties, from what I've heard Mandalay Bay, Venetian and Palazzo also offer 3:2 but minimum are often $50 or more on those games?
Ams, thx for being my very first reader. I assume that is a partial list that you're sure of. I'd also assume that some of the lower-to-mid-tier ones such as Circus Circus, SLS, Monte Carlo, and the Linq should also offer 3:2 at relatively low limits at most times? I actually did visit Mirage's pit on a not-so-busy night and most tables were closed. Is that real that their MAIN pit is ALL 6:5? That's really brutal..
Also, as I toured the casinos/hotels I had a few in mind where the atmosphere seemed to my taste that I would consider playing there on my next trip, which are not listed above. Can anyone confirm whether any of the following are still valid? Note that the following is cited from the Survey on this site.
Paris: 8D, H17, DAS, LS, NRSA, $10-$2000;
Cosmopolitan: 8D, H17, DAS, LS, RSA, $15-$5000;
Wynn/Encore: 6D, H17, DAS, LS, RSA, $10-$5000;
CP: 6D, H17, DAS, LS, NRSA, $10-$10000
Also for my higher-roller acquaintances who'd prefer to play up to $50-$100 a hand and play in higher-end properties, from what I've heard Mandalay Bay, Venetian and Palazzo also offer 3:2 but minimum are often $50 or more on those games?
Linq has 0 3:2 games. Stay away from them. And unfortunately, Monte Carlo switched to all 6:5 recently. I used to enjoy their low limit games, but they are all ruined now.
Cosmo has $10-$15 8D games in the morning, $25 and up later in the day.
No game at the Wynn ever goes below $15, and most of the time they are $25. Pit bosses are nice there, and they often let you play for $15 if you ask. Their 6D shoes are all 3:2.
Those rules you posted for Paris are still valid, but usually those games are $15.
Linq has 0 3:2 games. Stay away from them. And unfortunately, Monte Carlo switched to all 6:5 recently. I used to enjoy their low limit games, but they are all ruined now.
By zero 3:2 do you mean blackjack tables of any limits or just low-roller tables (i.e. below $25)? Also for Monte Carlo, all 6:5 even for the $50 and $100 high limit tables? That's insane.
DISCLAIMER: It doesn't have everything, just the cheapest games that I actually played. I'm not going to list the rules, since my survey is probably inaccurate. You can just use the Wizard's survey for the rules. Also, I don't play CSMs, so this list is for shoes or pitch games. Lastly, I went to these casinos at random times. You may find that they are more/less expensive depending on when you go.
Mandalay Bay - $25 DD, $25 6D
Luxor - everything looked 6:5 to me, may have missed a section
Excalibur - $15 DD, $10 6D
Tropicana - $15 6D, $25 DD
Hooter's - $10 SD, $10 6D
MGM Grand - $10 6D, $25 6D S17
New York New York - $25 DD, $10 6D
Monte Carlo - Everything is shit
Planet Hollywood - $15 8D, $25 DD
Cosmo - $15 6D, $15 8D
Bally's - $15 6D, $25 DD
Paris - $10 8D, $25 DD
Flamingo - $25 DD, $15 6D
Linq - $25 8D
Oshea's - Everything is shit
Harrah's - $25 DD, $10 8D
Bellagio - Everything is shit under $100
Caesar's Palace - $25 6D
Treasure Island - $10 6D
Mirage - $25 6D, $25 DD
Casino Royale - Everything is shit
Venetian - Everything is shit under $50
Palazzo - Everything is shit under $50
Riviera - $25 DD, $25 6D
Circus Circus - $15 DD, $10 6D
SLS - $25 DD
Stratosphere - $25 DD, $10 6D
NYNY always has at least 1 table of 3:2 blackjack. Back in November it was CSM, two weeks ago it was a shoe. $15 minimum, I think it drops to $10. These are the tables in the same bank as the $25 blackjack and Pai Gow Poker. One of them is a lowered table.
'My' Vegas started 6 years ago and even I notice a difference. It's very hard to play blackjack on the strip for less than $25 a hand, considering I won't touch CSM's (they move too fast).
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Here's my blackjack survey of the strip (All info gathered 2015).
DISCLAIMER: It doesn't have everything, just the cheapest games that I actually played. I'm not going to list the rules, since my survey is probably inaccurate. You can just use the Wizard's survey for the rules. Also, I don't play CSMs, so this list is for shoes or pitch games. Lastly, I went to these casinos at random times. You may find that they are more/less expensive depending on when you go.
Mandalay Bay - $25 DD, $25 6D
Luxor - everything looked 6:5 to me, may have missed a section
Excalibur - $15 DD, $10 6D
Tropicana - $15 6D, $25 DD
Hooter's - $10 SD, $10 6D
MGM Grand - $10 6D, $25 6D S17
New York New York - $25 DD, $10 6D
Monte Carlo - Everything is shit
Planet Hollywood - $15 8D, $25 DD
Cosmo - $15 6D, $15 8D
Bally's - $15 6D, $25 DD
Paris - $10 8D, $25 DD
Flamingo - $25 DD, $15 6D
Linq - $25 8D
Oshea's - Everything is shit
Harrah's - $25 DD, $10 8D
Bellagio - Everything is shit under $100
Caesar's Palace - $25 6D
Treasure Island - $10 6D
Mirage - $25 6D, $25 DD
Casino Royale - Everything is shit
Venetian - Everything is shit under $50
Palazzo - Everything is shit under $50
Riviera - $25 DD, $25 6D
Circus Circus - $15 DD, $10 6D
SLS - $25 DD
Stratosphere - $25 DD, $10 6D
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Great list EXCEPT for Bellagio. I've played a $10 3:2 SOFT 17 game there in the morning several times (usually on slow weekday mornings, but still!) A lot of the time their 6 deck S17 games are $25, then they go to $50 in the evening.
And they always have $10 games (granted you don't like CSMs, but I don't mind them.)